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CCC Home --> Meetings --> Minutes --> Meeting Notes: July 15, 1999
CCC Meeting Report
July 15, 1999
Location: School of Public Health
- LDAP: (Lightweight Data Access Protocol) LDAP sends a query to the central
server regarding information on local mail systems. LDAP is used on the system in Anderson and on
some other systems, to facilitate authentication. Since the campus Pads are being phased out,
certificates are now being issued. Don Worth (from AIS) will be asked to attend the next CCC
meeting to discuss his AIS experience with authentication issues.
- Distance Education:
- Gale Winting (Public Health) shared what Public Health is doing in distance education (in
partnership with OAC). Several strategies are being pursued:
- Satellite downlink — they have a site for downloads (uplinks are too costly)
- Desktop videoconference, ISDN units — They are getting away from this. They have done some
group material with 6 rural sites in California using a bridge line but they consider this
relatively expensive legacy technology. Telemedicine is migrating that way.
- They are starting to move toward live webcast technology and video streaming — with some
help from OAC.
- Janis Rosebrook (Nursing) shared that the Nursing school is seeking to reach master’s
students with this market. She observed that decisions need to be made about whether to contract
this kind of distance ed. work out or to do it in house. They spoke to ecollege.com, an
organization that is interested in putting a whole degree program up on the web.
- Jason Frand (Anderson) described interest that has been expressed at the Anderson School
regarding distance education programs. He is in the process of assembling a distance education
workgroup. Demographic information he has reviewed indicates there may be a huge population boom in
the state — perhaps a growth of 15 million more people. He believes that as the demographics
of the state change and the legislature suddenly realizes that there are many under-served people,
it is possible that the legislature will suddenly decide, as HMO’s have done in the field of
medicine, to legislate access to education. Jason would not be surprised if institutions such as
UCLA soon find themselves in a situation that mandates a requirement for students to take at least
one course per year via a distance education mode. Jason receives calls everyday regarding distance
education issues; he noted that Milliken has just signed agreements with the business schools of
Columbia, Chicago, Stanford for online courses.
- Eric Chang (UNEX) reported that 2,000 students are doing distance ed. courses this summer and
his department will do a teleconference to Palm Springs.
- Gale Winting (Public Health) suggested that distance education could become a sub-group for the
CCC.
- John DeGolyer (Law) reported that he is testing some material and will soon send out contact
information.
- OnLine Testing and Authentication Issues: Karie Masterson raised some
questions for response by the group regarding authentication issues and on-line testing.
- John DeGolyer stated that the law school lets students take exams on laptops in the labs. They
first removed the spell checkers, then decided later that these were legitimate tools and left them
in.
- In dentistry they have 4-5 servers running, and they are looking at a single point of
authentication. Approximately one half of their machines are UNIX and one-half are NT platform.
There is heavy usage of case-based learning tools, and many of their users dial in from other
locations such as their homes, the library, etc. They believe that authentication problems will
grow, especially as more courses are offered to physicians, etc. Some people may need to log-in
from three different locations and it will be important to allow them one log-on profile rather
than require them to use three different log-on profiles (one from each location they need to
use).
- Karie Masterson’s labs use authentication through BOL for ISP setup for laptops. The CTS
database is used. The same procedure is used in CLICC.
- Products used on the various networks continue to be heterogeneous.
- David Baker said that OAC is using a Cisco product; since it is integrated on the network, it
works well.
- Jason Frand said the Anderson network is a Bay network;
- Greg Kitch said the SEAS network is not Bay, not Cisco, but eclectic — mostly 4 vendors
used.,
- Janis Rosebrook said that for the UCLA connect project Cisco was recommended;
- Eric Chang has heard of a few others being used;
- Greg Kitch said that the Social Science network is 3com.
- Software Central: Greg Kitch sent an email to the group with copies of the
Software Central plan and table that Marsha Smith and Mary Wright drafted. He reminded the group to
read them and get back to Marsha Smith with comments.
- Showcase items: Greg Kitch plans to send an email regarding targeting
interesting showcase technology items within the departments. Greg was responding to a request the
AITB had sent (expressed at the last meeting) for an IT showcase to be held in conjunction with the
one- day Fall 1999 IT Retreat. The goal is to identify possible showcase items from different
areas. Jason Frand mentioned that he believed that the showcase would not be held in conjunction
with the IT Retreat, due to the Y2K work that will be ongoing at the time of the Fall It Retreat,
but will most likely be held sometime in the spring of 2000.
- Security Issues:
- Kent Wada has been asked to hold a one-day seminar/retreat for the campus on security
issues.
- Dan, Greg and Max met and will type up their comments regarding what they feel should be seen
from the new security officer. They would like to see a one-day security retreat be held at the end
of the first year of the new security officer’s employment. They reported that the web site is
starting to come up and that each area might have items to add to it.
- Karie asked if there was a central place to track incidents. She mentioned that in her area
they close one hole and another one is found; she suggested that it might make it easier if a
central log could be checked.
- Dan mentioned that all messages received are saved and will soon be accessible on the web site,
which will be password protected.
- Policy regarding methods for pursuing violations was discussed. Some members mentioned that one
has to be cautious regarding such pursuits. Some problems are turned in to the FBI, especially
incidents that are inter-state in nature. Ruth Simon, the campus counsel, has to be called before
each report is filed.
- A large percentage of the problems originate in other countries.
- Members agreed that some workshops should be held on this subject at the IT Retreat.
- The group generally agreed that procedures and policies for dealing with break-ins are needed.
John DeGolyer reported that a new policy would be soon passed down from the UC system.
- Phone charges: These charges were a major discussion item at the last ITPG
meeting. The issue apparently first surfaced in the Anderson school, with one faculty member asking
for permission to disconnect his phone and only use a cell phone to avoid what he felt were
excessive charges. He sent a memo to this effect to Louis Hook, CTS Director. CTS is analyzing
costs and also discussing an educational effort — i.e., here is the basic rate, and an
additional "x" is what you pay for these services provided to the campus but not necessarily to
everyone.
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