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C.C.C. meeting Notes:
November 18, 2004

CCC Meeting Minutes
November 18th, 2004

Agenda
• Network Review Survey (Babak)
• AV Service Contracting, (Sean)
• UCLA Vision Statement, (Jason)
• Running School, Division and Departmental Networks (Jason)

Reports
Functional Oversight Committee for IT (Greg)
Persistent Email (Sean)

Members Present
Jason Frand
David Snow
Anne Chang
Tito Deveyra
Eric Chang
Tom Phelan
Jim Kimmick
Vincent Riggs
Bill Jepson
Babak Sabieri
Max Kopelevich
Peter Kovaric
Greg Kitch
Sean Pine

Agenda Items Discussion and Actions

Network Review Survey

The draft network survey forwarded from OIT was reviewed and the CCC discussed optimum means for its completion. Concern was expressed that the upcoming review was intended to make a case for the collectivization of academic IT.
A consensus was expressed that current research and instruction service levels would be difficult to duplicate cost-effectively by large central units in most areas. In areas where service could be equaled more economically, opinion was the deans should have the option of buying into such options as appropriate given their academic priorities rather than having such services mandated.
A point was made that only 18 of the 40 network centers under review are academic in nature, and that academic needs make such networks much more diverse than comparable administrative networks, as well as being closely tied to each unit’s academic areas of study.
A general recommendation was made for members to discuss this matter in detail with their deans.
The following action items were adopted:

1. A working committee chaired by Vincent Riggs was formed to review completed surveys and suggest improvements. A preliminary first meeting date of December 1st from 12-4 was proposed.
2. A cover page and summary will be developed by the working group for review at the December 16th meeting for all CCC survey results.
3. After approval at the next meeting, a complete packet including all member group survey results, with a CCC cover page and summary, will be returned to OIT for all member units.
4. If necessary, arrangements may be made to forward the CCC cover page and summary after the December 17th survey deadline should additional time be needed for its completion.
5. Greg Kitch will request via ITFOC that all original surveys be included as an appendix in the materials sent to the reviewers. An alternative proposal to include only selected surveys was voted down, but will be reassessed when all surveys have been completed.
6. Greg Kitch will request via ITFOC that redacted statistics taken from academic surveys be compiled separately from administrative unit surveys, as such networks have substantially different missions.
7. Request if possible that the redacted survey results be forwarded back to survey participants for review for accuracy before it is sent to the reviewers.
8. That the CCC Security subcommittee reconvene to review security-related issues germane to the survey.


AV Service Contracting

A discussion was initiated on problems related to support of AV facilities in classrooms. Problems have been encountered getting equipment serviced effectively and in training faculty to use complex AV equipment and classrooms. The following action items were adopted:

1. An informal workgroup was formed by Sean and Vincent to study this problem


UCLA Vision Statement

Jason suggested that a review of the UCLA mission statement would be useful. The suggestion was made that one mission statement point could be submitted as an agenda item during upcoming meetings if desired. No action items were adopted.

Running School, Division and Departmental Networks

A discussion was begun on the future of academic computing at UCLA, and how support paradigms might change over the next five years. The discussion will be continued in future meetings. No action items were adopted.

Other Business

A request was made for the meeting chair to request Marsha update the meeting list for 2005.





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